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Hi all.

Im a Sport Therapist looking to undertake a course in acupuncture as I think the 2 proffesions will work well together. I have seen a training school in Long Eaton, Nottingham and wondered if anybody has or knows somebody who has trained there.

The next course starts in a few months and would like to hear peoples opinions before I commit.

Thanks, Katie
 
Hi Katielou

As an aupuncturist, I'm always delighted that more people might want to learn about this useful healing art, but I'm always puzzled when folk with existing therapies want to "add" it to whatever it is they already pratice. It makes me think that maybe there's not enough trust in their existing therapeutic training, and that by adding acupuncture it might help to patch it up. I've certainly met physiotherapists that use acupuncture when everything else has failed to work, only to then get a result.

Acupuncture is much more than simply chucking a few needles close to the hurty area. The Chinese foundations of medicine treat sickness on physical, emotional and even spiritual levels, making no separation between these areas. I'd suggest that if you are serious about learning one of the world's longest surviving therapeutic techniques, avoid anywhere that teaches so-called "acupuncture" in a few weekends, as you will miss the part of the training that really allows you to connect with another human being in need of help. "Dry needling" is not acupuncture, as it doesn't have the necessary "language" to deal with people at all levels.

For a thorough training in acupuncture, why not try the Northern College of Acupuncture in York. It has one of the leading research progammes in the country, and a solid reputation in the profession. Val Hopwood runs an MSc in Acupuncture in Coventry that combines Chinese and Western thinking, including clinical reasoning from both directions, which can be studied in short modules.

Finally, I notice you run a mobile service. This is particularly problematic for acupuncture, as it's quite difficult to manage the necessary cleanliness appropriate for acupuncture with cats jumping on the bed. Ask me how I know!
 
Thank you for the advice. The course in Nottingham is spread over 2 years so didnt think there would be much difference to the one in York. I do believe in my knowledge and training, acupuncture is something Ive always been interested in as opposed to it being a last gasp attempt to fix someone.

Ill look into the York course and report back.

Thanks for your time, Katie
 
Hi Katie, I started off practising massage, and then shiatsu, then acupuncture and so i can appreciate the direction your heading in; my advice would be to choose a course that is accredited or undergoing accreditation by an independent body such as the BAAB, this way you can be sure of being in a strong position in the event of increased regulatory requirements etc. There are certainly a few well known acupuncturists on the lecture circuit that have combined acupuncture with sports therapy/otseopathy,physiotherapy etc and who specialise in treating musculo-skeletal problems - so there are some opportunities in this direction.
Best wishes, Tony
 
In response to Tony's posting, yes, there are those folk who combine acupuncture with other therapies, but this tends to be a Westernised version that disregards "Qi" or "energy". Not that this approach is ineffective, it's just very limited. Two weekends' training does not an acupuncturist make! I'd make a very poor osteopath or physiotherapist with that little training.

There is currently a drive to "medicalise" acupuncture and marginalise its historical theories, and doing so makes it poorer rather than richer. When a patient comes to see me for say, knee pain, I have the starting point that allows me to attempt to improve any accompanying insomnia, digestive disorders, IBS, migraine and so on. To treat the knee pain alone would leave me feeling like a "western" practitioner, where the "person" is separated from the "problem". An unfortunate extension of this approach is that there is a danger of perceiving the person AS a problem, this being very evident in the NHS facility where I did some training.

I reitterate, Acupuncture and Dry Needling are not the same.
 
i think a sports therapist has a wide enough skill set to achieve the goals needs and aspirations of their clients, I would refer to suitably qualified practitioner rather than try to add to my port folio of skills, i master in my primary therapy and let oters master theirs
regards
BGFL
 
I would disagree with you David that "the folk who combine therapies tend to use a Westernised version", I think that many traditionally trained acupuncturists have arrived at acupuncture from an earlier experience of another therapeutic system, particularly some kind of bodywork and most of the acupuncture teaching institutions teach some form of bodywork in parallel or as an adjunct to acupuncture. I think this approach allows the practitioner greater flexibility in their treatment strategy and personally, I often combine massage, acupuncture and herbs depending on the individual patient and their underlying pattern. The argument about whether a physiotherapist or GP should treat someone after a 2 weekend course is of course an important debate to have but I do not think it applies to Katie's initial post as she appears to be considering a much longer training.

Best wishes, Tony
 
"Finally, I notice you run a mobile service. This is particularly problematic for acupuncture, as it's quite difficult to manage the necessary cleanliness appropriate for acupuncture with cats jumping on the bed. Ask me how I know!"

Just use a laser instead. It's been around for a long time and I've read that for example an oral surgeon called Yo-Cheng Zhou used laser acupuncture anaesthesia to conduct over 10,000 tooth extractions between the 1950s and 70s.
 
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    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  36. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  37. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  38. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  39. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅOur famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday May 29th with busty 36DD young girl Bobo, Sexy New Petite Japanese Cutie Mico and Sweet Sensual Busty Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Call Annie Spa to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐ŸฉทAnnie Spa๐Ÿฉท 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 โ˜Ž๏ธ647-891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  44. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ190 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  45. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Gorgeous Candy, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ CANDY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. wonderspa:
    :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ
  48. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Jennifer, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday May 29, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜, Sophie ๐Ÿ˜ and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  50. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
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