sports massage therapists

How would listing the qualificaions I have written (all of which are currently on NDAQ / RRQ) 'back it up'!
I don't sign them so you would only question them

Anyway I fail to see why I should justify anything to you personally
As I said all those on this forum whose opinions I respect already know exactly who I am

Oh well I tried

Good luck with your Degree
Hope it gets you where you want to get in the industry but please do not consider it to be a 'magic ticket' to succeed

More important is luck, contacts and personality and, since I have not written any qualifications in these subjects, I cannot help you with any of them
 
Appologies to everyone on this forum for the direction this debate has evolved

In summary, removing all candor and rhetoric (and my final word on the subject) I would just like to say that although doing any Degree is laudable in my personal experience it is not always necessary
End of......
 
well i can honestly say i never thought my post would spark such anger so ive re-posted my original post and highlighted a few parts.

i wrote this post hoping that it would embrace that fact that we are different, that's why we have different titles ST/SMP but we need to work together to help promote our work and to make the public more aware of our industry.

So what if you have a degree or diploma, well done to you which ever you achieved. Those people who do rubbish courses will be rubbish therapist and will not last long in the real world.

But fighting, bickering and stabbing each other in the back helps no-one

like i said i wrote the post to help promote SM, i never said we were the same as ST, i am a SMP and want to be known as a professional therapist by the powers that be.

embrace and promote regardless of what you do
 
Hi Beagle

I'm not surprised at all, apart from the time delay between you first post and the flack afterwards. I've been on here for toooo long ;-)

I've often said on Hp that I'm happy to be a massage therapist and bodyworker, and it can be as sophisticated and skilled as any other therapy, if the practitioner wishes to go that way. So many therapies have overlaps, so it can be hard to come out with precise definitions. I have no answers to the ST/SMP quagmire (though definitions have been spoken about on Hp and syllabus links). Looking at your background, I would of thought that you would of benefited from being both a sports therapist & a massage therapist.

Best wishes

RP
 
Hi Beagle

These arguments are going on in different forums all over the world, profession against profession and internal arguing to boot, I wish you luck.

Regards steve
 
i can see that now, why we stab each all the time is beyond me, we are a caring profession, trained to help people get and feel better. this Attitude about who is better im really not about that. i dont claim to know or treat people better than any other therapist regardless of there qual.

all im trying to do is(although not doing very well at) promote our trade to the public. we all want more work and to recognized more. the more voices the louder we are and if SM & ST worked together then perhaps we would be able to work on a level playing field with other therapist

im not holding my breath. i was told today that physios are moving in a different direction away from hands on therapies, it will leave a whole for all of us if we work together.

we shall see
 
quite the opposite, Physio degrees are now reintroducing massage into the syllabus, in response to NICE report on LBP which recommended massage from appropriately trained therapists. Between 1 and 11 hours was common place before this acedemic year

regarding SMPs and STs working together, I fear there might be too much of a crossover of the basic skillset and therefore some will see it a competing for the same client base.
bgfl
 
yes i fear you maybe right.

the physio i was speaking had been in the industry for some time so it maybe just his practice but if physios are training more into massage then it show even more that we need to fight together to stop physios pulling what clients we get away from us. ive not meet a physio that is hands on yet so i doubt they will start

but as SM & ST do have many crossovers then we should just be one voice and make a point of what our trade we do for the public. we will just be left by the other professions and thats not good for us
 
Hi Richard (Beagle)
just to say how much I admire your optimisum, not only would I nominate you for the nobel peace prize I would def drop by for a rub when in coventry.
We all hold passionately held possitions that unfortunately all to easily decend into an unholy bunfight (quite how this all looks to the silent veiwing public I can't imagine).

your comments are a breath of fresh air
 
why thank you

having been a sports coach and personal trainer for so long i need my passion to flow out onto other so they will achieve their goals. im the same way with sports massage, it took me a long time to find this profession and now i embrace it, i wish we all could do the same.

to hear my clients say how freer they feel after having a treatment from me and when can they book for their next massage is very rewarding.

i am new to this business (only 4 years now) and i have a lot to learn, but it will not stop me being proactive and passionate about SM & ST, its the way forward regarding rehab, injury prevention, and damn right feeling good factor
 
I have been doing it a bit longer than you, and the realization that you can have such a positive effect on sufferers, getting them back to work, stopping an unnessecary operation,.........its a feeling that can't be beat
 
you hit the nail on the head there, how many other therapies like ours that can be a prevention to injury rather than a after effect. How many people will go to a physio once a month to keep supple or in condition, thats the benefit of SM it enables people to hopefully stay injury free
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Carla ๐Ÿฅณ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  41. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Vietnamese Girl Aiko She is Mixed Chinese/Japanese Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young new girl Sherry 28โ€™s with curve body and young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body, pretty Ella and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  44. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธJessicaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: HELEN, KIKI & CINDY. HELEN Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LILY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LILY is a beautiful slim Thai lady, petite with C Cups & a nice medium sized ass. Her services will complete your day.
  48. Bencook:
    Suko have Youngest Beautiful Lily ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ Hellen Sky Lucky Michelle Emma ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐplease call 647 718 6182
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Young RMT Student Helen, Pretty Girl Apple, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ APPLE AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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