Some Questions from a Noob

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I've been looking through the forum trying to understand the acronyms and lingo. It's almost a whole new language.

I've been primarily looking at reviews of girls in semi-legit establishments. I think I'll start there before diving into holistic places. I have a few girls on the tdl that I think would provide a low milage yet fun first experience. Although, being a repeat customer would be ideal, I'm not sure how much I'd frequent in the hobby.

I think I get the gist of the industry standard tip system. On top of the room fee, I'd start with a $40 tip and $20 for additional services. Does that sound right?

It's interesting to see different techniques offered by different girls. Soft to hard massages, teasing, Thai massage, lingham, dragon tendon, cross finish, etc. Are there other services, such as a milking table for example, available at spas/Indy?

Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?

Some girls I have on the tdl are:

Nancy at Superior. I haven't seen much about her being said except that she's doesn't require any review as she's well know. This has me curious.

Nancy at Just Relax. She seems like a go to and the cross finish is intriguing.

Selena at Shangri-la. She seems to have a vast menu for semi and known for her massage.

Looking for someone with nice teasing, edging and easy on the eyes. All suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for reading. I'm interested to see some different opinions to get a better idea of what to expect.

Ewan T
 
Welcome to the hobby, beware it’s a slippery slope and there is no coming back lol!

It sounds like you got the basics right. You can certainly cut the massage short if you want , just give hints to the girl that that’s what you want and it shouldn’t be a problem. I personally never do that unless looking for more mileage than a hi or if the massage is really bad.

The three girls on your list are a solid selection. I have tried the two Nancys and Selena is on my Tdl. Of the two I know, JR Nancy is definitely in a different league in terms of massage and hj quality in my opinion. Her cross finish is very erotic. However there is no extras beyond that, even otc touching is tricky given how she is positioned during the finish. Superior Nancy has a gorgeous pair of knockers she will encourage you to smother your face in. They are gorgeous. But her massage is soft and the hj good but nothing too memorable. If you are looking for a hj while your face is buried in some gorgeous tits, she is definitely a good choice. But personally I would choose JR Nancy as my first.

Based on what I understand you are looking for (massage, great tease & hj) I would also strongly recommend Ada at E&M. Softish but highly sensual massage, unbelievable teasing and hj. The girls keeps you edge the whole time, definitely one of the most sensual sessions out there. I reviewed her here if you are interested. She is also fairly young (25-30) and has some nice curves to her.

Whoever you go for have fun and let us know how it went!
Orchid spa some many great ladies to choose from
I am a real customer not the promoters who are telling you to go to there places
 
I go there regularly 2 hours mostly massage
Phoenix Blossom Spa 5124 Dundas Street

Visit one the best run spa’s in Etobicoke.

The have in room showers, table showers, great
massages from very talented women.

Helen operates with semi rules of engagement.

Give her a call or send text, she will respond.

Cheers!
 
Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?
I would let the girl know at the start of the session when you book an hour that you would like 30 minutes of massage and 30 minutes of fun/play as face down you might be surprised how quick the time goes during the massage part with some girls

Some girls are okay with 2 shots if you come early and there is time left into the 30 minutes of fun but they may ask you for an additional tip but its entirely MPA dependent and there is no way to know for sure if they will let you or if they want an extra tip or just the standard tip until you are in the session with that specific girl but it doesn't hurt to ask and just be upfront with them after you finish the 1st shot
 
The quicker you get the lady naked, the quicker the fun part start. I often tell the lady that I would like to start by massaging her. Works great... but as @LuckyShot said, the girl would expect a little extra if the fun part last longer than usual. Definitely for MSOG.

Also less awkward if you have seen the lady before and established already a connection.
 
I would let the girl know at the start of the session when you book an hour that you would like 30 minutes of massage and 30 minutes of fun/play as face down you might be surprised how quick the time goes during the massage part with some girls

Some girls are okay with 2 shots if you come early and there is time left into the 30 minutes of fun but they may ask you for an additional tip but its entirely MPA dependent and there is no way to know for sure if they will let you or if they want an extra tip or just the standard tip until you are in the session with that specific girl but it doesn't hurt to ask and just be upfront with them after you finish the 1st shot
If you have some connection with the girl and its an hour, 2 shots can usually be accomodated at a semilegit place. Handjobs are less work than hard massage, so many will welcome that. If its 2 blowjobs or 2 fucks, she will expect more tips in most cases.
 
Orchid spa some many great ladies to choose from
I am a real customer not the promoters who are telling you to go to there places
OP is looking for semi legit. Orchid spa is a fuck shop . The rooms are small with no shower in the rooms. Your posting histories told me you're affiliated with Orchid spa and bashing Phoenix Blossom.
 
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I've been looking through the forum trying to understand the acronyms and lingo. It's almost a whole new language.

I've been primarily looking at reviews of girls in semi-legit establishments. I think I'll start there before diving into holistic places. I have a few girls on the tdl that I think would provide a low milage yet fun first experience. Although, being a repeat customer would be ideal, I'm not sure how much I'd frequent in the hobby.

I think I get the gist of the industry standard tip system. On top of the room fee, I'd start with a $40 tip and $20 for additional services. Does that sound right?

It's interesting to see different techniques offered by different girls. Soft to hard massages, teasing, Thai massage, lingham, dragon tendon, cross finish, etc. Are there other services, such as a milking table for example, available at spas/Indy?

Something else I am wondering is would it be rude to ask to flip early? I'd enjoy the massage more if the massage was half the time and the other half for fun. How should I approach this?

An hour seems like a while. Within that time, I think I can do two shots. Would this be something some girls would be okay with? Could I even skip the massage completely?

Some girls I have on the tdl are:

Nancy at Superior. I haven't seen much about her being said except that she's doesn't require any review as she's well know. This has me curious.

Nancy at Just Relax. She seems like a go to and the cross finish is intriguing.

Selena at Shangri-la. She seems to have a vast menu for semi and known for her massage.

Looking for someone with nice teasing, edging and easy on the eyes. All suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for reading. I'm interested to see some different opinions to get a better idea of what to expect.

Ewan T
Looks like you have already done your home work well..All your choices are very good but if you are a young guy, Nancy Superior may not be for you. She is one of the nicest lady with lots of regular customers and booked solid most of the time but she's in her 60s. There are 3-4 ladies in their 55 to 65 range and they are still doing well.
You can have more fun with great massage and tease with Selena at SL and Amy at East Beaver wellness. Be warned ! They both are very addictive with great attitude and their GFE service. Both speak English well. Ada at E&M is really good but limited fun and not much English. So is Nancy at JR, no extras. .If you are in Oakville, Lucy at CFF is amazing with all kinds of skills.

Click on this banner ad, you'll get all the info of the girls at EB.

 
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Looks like you have already done your home work well..All your choices are very good but if you are a young guy, Nancy Superior may not be for you. She is one of the nicest lady but she's in her 60s.
You can have more fun with great massage with Selena at SL and Amy at East Beaver wellness. Be warned ! They both are very addictive with great attitude and their GFE service. Ada at E&M is really good but limited fun. So is Nancy at JR. .If you are in Oakville, Lucy at CFF is amazing.

What’s the fun factor for Selena? How far can I go behind the closed door? I know it is ymmv. Being a challenger will like to take her on.
 
OP is looking for semi legit. Orchid spa is a fuck shop . The rooms are small with no shower in the rooms. Your posting histories told me you're affiliated with Orchid spa and bashing Phoenix Blossom.
This guy is a promoter not a customer
Either way fo what you want I do not care
Promoters have never seen any one
They read from a sheet and list it
 
Every spa does massage or sex you need to specify what you want when you book and work out your price included tip
This is how I book always
 
This guy is a promoter not a customer
Either way fo what you want I do not care
Promoters have never seen any one
They read from a sheet and list it
Phoenix Blossom Spa
Well run, beautiful ladies, great massage, shower inside the rooms, table shower...semi rules of engagement.
Etobicoke location.
 
Every spa does massage or sex you need to specify what you want when you book and work out your price included tip
This is how I book always
Yes, along with with your 3 wives servicing you, and your 3-4 spa visits per week, coupled with your $150K spa parties.

Crawl back to your rock pile...its where you belong!
 
What’s the fun factor for Selena? How far can I go behind the closed door? I know it is ymmv. Being a challenger will like to take her on.
C'mon, you have known her for a long time and you know everything about her.

BTW.....your fav here is doing very well. One guy saw her today at 12:45 and back again at 4 pm for another hour. She's really addictive. I warned every of her new customers she's addictive and some do agree with me now.
 
I think he is looking for basic semi legit tease/hj, Orchid may have some great ladies but it’s a full-service spa…
Interesting, been there a few times for some spinner that did a short stint at SL , most I got was CBJ. Was working on more but gave up trying. Didn’t think this place was even holistic.
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
Learn mandarin or communicate in simple English with body gesture, I don't speak Mando so that's what I've been doing


Glad to see u have a good time at E&M
 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
They all use Google translate. If she can speaks a little more English, she'll be pretty hard to book. She has been my regular for more than 5-6 yrs . Once she trusts you, she can be lots of fun.

Amy at EBW ? Be warned ! she's very addictive. So is new girl Naomi and Cherry there.

 
Thanks for all the responses and advice. I went to see Ada @ E&M and had a great first session. Walked in and meet another attendant who was young and shorter than Ada. She introduced me to the manager who was very welcoming and led me to my room. After my shower, Ada walked in. Easy on the eyes and looked like she's in her late 20s or early 30s. Fit petite body with an innocent looking face. Was allowed to touch during the massage and fun. She speaks a bit of English. She understood enough to have some conversation and for me to adjust parts of the session. She had a great sensual massage while giving extra attention to sore spots. Barely sufficient for my active lifestyle but still enjoyable. Next time I'll ask for a bit more strength in the massage. The teasing started right before the flip. She added some extra oil and worked her way up between the legs. It was a good start before the flip. The touching continued after I flipped as she unclipped her bra. Sensual touching for junior as she slowly sped up. She takes instructions well as she continued to stroke after the climax.

Massage: 7. It was great for meeting her for the first time. I just prefer more strength.
Physique: 7. Fit petite body with a face that's easy on the eyes.
Fun: 8. Great tease, touching and responded well to my requests.

One thing I'd like to overcome for future sessions is the language barrier. How do you guys overcome this?

Will look more into Amy @ EBW.
The translate app that comes with Apple is really good. Go into conversation mode and it translates as you speak, and recognizes what language you each speak. Your hands can be busy doing other things!
 
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