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I'm a recent graduate (April 2011) and passed the NCBTMB exam this month. I'll never stop learning and still feel student-like so I chose this forum. I'm curious for the established therapists, what was your first massage position and how long after graduating did you get it? I'm looking for some encouragement in your stories. Was it normal for you to have doubts about yourself and what you know? My school did not "formally" teach Swedish so I've been researching books/videos and practicing. I may be over analyzing but for me, it seems so vaguely cold when a spa or clinic says "must know Swedish and deep tissue." I feel strange or confused about the required modalities being so black and white because we weren't officially taught that way. Maybe I'm being too honest but I want to feel qualified.

Another thing, if your first place was a spa/clinic and you had a practicum with the employer...how did you beat anxiety? I love doing this and feel like it's something I need to do, it's so meaningful and fulfilling. I haven't been giving massages to friends and family lately and sense a difference in my mood. I'm eager to work but have a barrage of fears about being a good enough therapist for people. My life feels like a series of spiritual hills: massage school, NCBTMB, finding a place to work. This final one seems so tall. I want to climb it as much as I am afraid of it. Am I alone?
 
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No, you are not alone. I remember telling my teacher that I didn't 'feel' ready to go out there. I wanted to stay in school. He told me that I have all the tools available to me that are needed and that with each client I work on, I will learn from that client, gaining more knowledge every day. He said, "Sandra, you know sometimes when you go to the doctor and he says 'I will be right back...' maybe he isn't going to check on another patient. Maybe he stepped into his office to do research". Bottom line is.. the more massages you do, the more you will learn and none of us know everything when we first start. and none of us know everything when we retire... But I have found that caring about the person you are working on goes alot further than skill. If they know you aren't interested in the money they are giving you, but are more interested in what you have to offer them to make them feel better, the rest will take care of itself. And it won't be long before you are answering questions without a second thought and think.. wow, look how far I've come!

Good luck! :)
 
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I honestly think it is important to say, if you have to get to work and pay the bills, and don't have the luxury of worrying about this, your fear will be decreased by leaps and bounds.

Both a spa and clinic need to know if the people they will hire can actually do the work, feel competent about it and will most likely stick around. So when it feels vaguely cold to you that they have these specific requirements of a person who knows Swedish or Deep Tissue work, you have to recognize that they are hiring a person and plan to pay them for the work they will perform. If you look at them and say, "Well, I don't feel qualified.", you're just not going to get the job. When someone has to eat, they start to feel qualified rather they are or aren't, real quick.

It sounds like you are eager to work but don't have to. So, you are just going to be on a different playing field than a lot of us were when we got out of school. That may sound cruel, but it is more factual as far as my personal life was concerned.

When I got out of massage school, it was an auxillary education to one I already had in another health-care field (which I had already been in for about 6 years), so I already had the confidence. I am lucky in that aspect.

My story is long, so I won't bore you with the details, but when I took my first massage job, I can say I worked way too fast and tried to cover much more for each client than should be covered in a normal session. I eventually learned you can't take care of everything in one massage. I was using every body I could get my hands on to tweak and refine my work. I would practice a niggle here and there when the body allowed, in order to test things and see how the client reacted.

If you have the time to take now, so that you can learn things you would like before jumping into the world of massage work, then that is wonderful! I didn't have any time to take before getting into my initial or auxillary professions. I had bills to pay and had to eat. My desire was to set up my private practice. I worked my rear off at part time jobs in the day and established an office at night. I also worked late nights for someone else in addition to all of this. I worked backward of most people do, slowly dropping a job here and there until I could be in my private practice for regular business hours. It took everything I had (and then some) when it comes to my stamina and fortitude, in order to eventually have an ofice that I could be in throughout the day. Only about three years ago did I finally get to a point where I didn't have to work for other people in addition to my own practice, in order to pay the bills. And, when I say pay the bills, I mean no retirement fund, no 401K... just "pay the bills" and have a little left over to eat out here and there with a small vacation once every 7 or so years.

I am not trying to sound harsh, but I want you to know that I got out of my original heath-care related school in 1992. I set up private practice in 1996. I got my auxillary massage license (which is the majority of my private practice) in 1998-ish and now it is 2011. It may be hard, but you can do it. I love my work. I do it different than other people. It works for me. Find what you like and make it work for you. :)

You'll do fine. But if you have time to worry about it, you'll probably never jump in. So, get to jumping. This forum is a great resource and we'll help you in any way possible. I hope this was encouraging, even though it has a bleak tone to it.
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07/30/11: correction: 2008! ='d 1998. :P
 
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You are definitely not alone. I graduated December 07 and just had my first full interview and practicum today. I have done massage as a self-employed therapist for three years and I was almost shaking scared. But I was blessed with a wonderful owner/operator who made the whole process so relaxing and easy for me. I found as I got into the practicum and just went with my instincts and my training, I almost forgot it was an interview. Relax, breathe, trust your instincts {and your higher power if you believe in one} and you will do fine.
 
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"I got my auxillary massage license (which is the majority of my private practice) in 1998-ish (corrected) and now it is 2011."

07/30/11: correction: 2008! ='d 1998. :P
 
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One of the major things they can't teach you in massage school is what you will learn as you gain experience. Your hands and your clients will teach you so many things. Confidence will come as you become more comfortable with the many facets of massage. I worked for my massage school right after graduation as well as a little on my own from a chiropractor's office. I look back now and I am sure I lacked professionalism and skill, but with each job and each client, I learned something that I carry with me today. It has all helped make me the successful therapist I am today. Just do your best, ask questions and don't be afraid to try/learn new things. Good luck!
 
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I haven't graduated yet, but I am close. And this is something we have talked about as well. We are all feeling a bit nervous, inexperienced and not sure what to do after we are finished with school. We were told that we would probably feel this way. And our instructors have been telling us that they too are constantly learning. It's never ending. That's one of the cool things about this job. It's not boring! We were told that you really need to get your hands on about 1000 "bodies". That you were learn more by doing. You will feel things you weren't feeling before, feel the changes you are making and feel confident in your work. So when I go out there I am going to try my best to keep that in mind. And I will keep the attitude that I have right now when I am working on clients in clinic.... I take a deep breath, and say to myself that I am going into that session and I am going to give the best massage I know how to give. That's all I can do!
 
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Hmmm... prior to massage, I spent years in sales, marketing, and management. I also spent a lot of time in competitive martial arts. After living through the beatings and bruises experienced in those professional and personal endeavors, I am pretty comfortable with myself. :grin:

I graduated from school with a mountain of confidence, started working shortly afterward, and have become reasonably successful. Part of my confidence stems from the fact that I have much to learn and don't have to pretend otherwise. It's reassuring to know that so many of my colleagues are learning and teaching others, and that I can tap into deep wells of information to better understand each client, each session, each case history.

As an employer of massage therapists, I want applicants to be skilled in both relaxation and therapeutic massage methods. "Swedish" is a word commonly used as a euphemism for relaxation massage, and "deep tissue" is a euphemism for therapeutic massage. Don't get too hung up on them. If you know how to do effleurage, petrissage, tapotement, etc. - you essentially know "Swedish" massage. If you are skilled at client intakes, clinical reasoning and therapeutic massage techniques, you essentially know "deep tissue" massage.

Having received many "massage interviews" from applicants that passed the prior steps in the interview process, I can assure you that EVERYONE gets nervous, even those with many years of experience. The best suggestion I can give you is to take control and BE THE THERAPIST. You are working on a living, breathing person who needs work. Ask them relevant questions about their health before starting, and treat the massage as you would any other. If they ask you questions, do your best to answer. If they want you to do something specific, address it however seems best to you. If they ask you to apply more or less pressure, or to switch techniques, do so. If they just lay there, simply do a good massage.

However good you are right now, fresh out of school, you are nowhere near as good as you will become. You have loads of fresh knowledge but little real practice, and this is a very EXCITING time to get started, because you are about to embark on your journey towards mastery! :D For now, try to project the poise and professionalism of a master massage therapist. It gets easier with practice. :altwink:

This will NOT be your "final hill" - think of it as more of a speed bump. You may need to slow down and pay a bit of extra attention, but it won't stop you from moving forward.
 
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    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 30, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Carla ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿ˜ and Vicky ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  35. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
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