Post Pregnancy Massage

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I wanted to find out how soon after someone has given birth can you give them massage.

My sister in law just gave birth last week and she is in need of a massage. She is quite mobile but suffering from lower back pain.

I am thinking that she will have to wait a few weeks.

Can anyone help?

Thanks.
 
Hi Therapywise[/align][/align]Why do you think she has to wait a few weeks, you can massage right up to the birth and straight after as long as it is a normal birth without any complications, pregnancy is not a disease or a dysfunction it is a natural bodily process;-)[/align]
 
Hi Paul

Thanks for your message. I suppose you're right. She is still bleeding and I wanted her to comfortable.

I will mention to her that it is safe - she has been checked (as she had a home birth - not planned at home).

Thanks again - needed a bit of reassurance.

Alka
 
Hi Alka[/align][/align]Unless you go deeply into the stomach or work the perineum the you should not affect the bleeding which should not continue for very long :-)[/align]
 
Alka, I agree with Paul - massage should be fine as long as its comfortable for the client. I would avoid deep work anywhere and aim for relaxing the body and helping it absorb some of the hugechanges it is going through. Dont give it lots of other stuff to do - it has enough already - just help it along - and you may find that it needs very little help.

Improved circulation should help hormonal balance - be preparedthere might besome emotional reactionsin the first few weeks (typically 3 - 5 days 'baby blues').I would go for little and often - frequent short sessions - and start as soon as mum wants if it was a 'normal' delivery. If it were a C/S, ot there were other complicationsI would advise more caution. If in doubt ask the midwife for her opinion.

I would also consider working with the client side lying to work on the back (or seated). Thisavoids pressure of lying prone on breasts and abdomen which may be tender. Use lots of pillows!

I am not sure I know what massage procedure Paul uses that involve work on the perineum! perhaps he can explain?

InTouch
 
Thank you both for your advice. I will take this on board and hopefully will be giving her a treatment soon.

Alka
 
Hi InTouch[/align][/align]I was not advocating the perineum should be worked though if someone was familiar with acupressure then it could be used to help but not with the bleeding ;-)[/align]
 
I had someone massage me during labour and everyday for 7 days post natal.I managed to avoid the back pain that I experienced during myfirst labout.
If anyone hadsuggested treating my perineum I would have run a mile (taking my baby with me!). It was full of stitches which felt like steel hausers. No therapist I know has ever even mentioned treating that part of my anatomy.
 
Hi Jabba[/align][/align]You have hit the nail on the head, that can leave some very debilitating problems which will not go away on their own.[/align][/align]Hi Tigerbee[/align][/align]Not come across it very often myself but enough to know what the problems are and how to treat them :-)[/align]
 
Personally I would wait until a month postnatal. I don't like having massages wearing big thick sanitary towels with heavy bleeding and can imagine a lot of people would feel the same, also the first couple of weeks you have really painful, engorged (and leaky!) breasts - so again, not high on the comfort and embarrassment factor. Also it's hard to be away from a newborn (if she's breastfeeding) for even an hour (as they feed constantly).

I would go for a seated, clothed massage ASAP.
 
Thanks everyone.

I will take into consideration what you have all said. As long as she is comfortable and safe then I will be happy.

Alka
 
Hi Jabba [/align][/align]I generally treat whatever dysfunctions I am presented with in whatever way seems to be the most appropriate and direct way to treat that dysfunction, as long as the recipient understands what is involved with any given treatment andconsents to it then I am happy to give it.[/align][/align]One part of the body is much thesame as any other,I personally do not have any hang-ups about this or that part of someone's anatomy, any part of the body can dysfunction and if it can be treat physically then that is what I do ( if I can't treat it physically then I will treat it energetically).[/align]
 
Alka

I can imagine how wonderful it would be for your sister in law to have a massage after having her baby. Heaven! If its too uncomfortable for her to lie down for a full massage treatment how about just giving her an upper body massage ina sitting position to help her relax and heal.

Sandra
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In reply to Paul - I'm still not convinced that the perineum should be included in any treatment, other than that done by a gynaecologist or midwife, and certainly not without the presence of a chaperone - written consent or not.
 
Hi Jabba

An interesting response.

It might interest you to know that onthefew occasions I have had to workany area that might be deemed a sensitive one by my patients to clear a dysfunction, whenasked if theywould like topostponeit until they could bring a chaperone, the response was generally that they would probably feel embarrassed if someone else was present and it has bothered them long enough not to delay fixing it any longer.

On a personal note, if I employed a therapist and feltI neededa chaperone present for whatever type of therapy they deemed appropriate to sort outmy problems then I would definitely not be going back to them again, IMO you either trustthe therapists you employor you will possibly block the treatment, it is as always downto personal choices.
 
The perineum is a standard acupressure point (Ren 1).
However, as a male therapist, I personally wouldnโ€™t touch anyoneโ€™s perineum, even without the post-pregnancy complications which Jabba referred to in her earlier post. I would be concerned that the client might have โ€˜second thoughtsโ€™ after initially consenting to the treatment. See, for example, the following quote from a female correspondent on the earlier thread โ€˜sexual discrimination in massage therapyโ€™:



Alan
 
Hi Alan[/align][/align]I can understand where you are coming from and we are all open to someone either maliciously or genuinely misunderstanding our intentions, but do you not think what you have posted compromises your therapy? it is as you say an intrical part of acupressure and acupuncture and one of the main governing points, so is it credible as a practicing professional to omit it if it is required to complete the treatment?[/align][/align]I personally do not use it in the way you would as a part of my therapy, to me it is just another part of the body that occasionally goes wrong, muchthe same as a torn or scarred muscle tissue anywhere in the body.[/align]
 
Hi Paul

In theory I agree with the point you are making, and if I were working in Jamaica, Spain or Germany I would probably feel less inhibited about working on the more 'personal' pressure points. But it is clear from many of the threads on this forum thatdifferent people have very different perceptions of modesty. Male therapists are particularly vulnerable to accusations of inappropriate behaviour, and I would prefer to err on the side of caution.

Regards

Alan
 
You can massage right up to the birth and straight after as long as it is a normal birth without any complications, pregnancy is not a disease or a dysfunction it is a natural bodily process
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  36. Nu spring spa888:
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  37. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  38. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
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  42. Soul Relax Spa:
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  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  44. SL Spa:
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  45. Lulu1980:
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  46. DareDevil:
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  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  48. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
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