pain get worse before it gets better?

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Hi all.

I saw a first time client yesterday.
There is a history or lower back pain but now she says its gone into her right leg.
Her husband died around 2 years ago and she's been 'holding it together'.

Her body was like a board. She noticed it to which is great. I work intuitively and I said I think she's holding the grief in her back/hips.

I called her to check in today and she said her back was worse today and on both sides. I did say to her yesterday that this might happen.

I've heard that sometimes we are holding something, resulting in pain, but its protecting us. If we have it worked on it can make it worse or result in a 'flare up'.

So, I'm confused now when it comes to lower back and hips.

How do we know when to work the area or when to leave it? I trust my intuition and feel I did the right thing and of course I am hoping that the pain will ease and she is releasing what shes been holding onto for years.

What is your experience with things like this?

Thanks in advance
 
Hi Lollo.

Could I ask first, what sort of therapist you are and what sort of therapy you offer and what therapy, specifically, your client came to see you for?
 
Hi Derek.

Yes, that would be handy to know :-)

Holistic massage. 5 years. Also some energy work, reiki, chakra balancing and polarity balancing (the 2 latter being the work of Bob Moore, an irish energy worker)

She came to me recommended by another client. She came mainly came for relaxtion. Said she was going to go back to the physio to check out the pain. She wanted some work on her shoulders as she was feeling tense there. (Those were better today) And have some touch as its obviously been a while. It was also her first massage so I guided her through the whole process first and during.

thanks Derek
 
I just wonder how she would have felt the next day if, rather than telling her she is holding that grief in her back and hips, you had told her 'well done' for letting it go? (Although I never offer my intuitive musings unless specifically asked for them!)

And rather than telling her she might feel worse before she feels better, you had told her to expect to feel great because she'd just had a fantastic bodywork session?

The power of words - and thoughts!!!
 
Yes. You're so right. I did give her some negetive suggestions didnt i. Tx for pointing that out.

Thankfully I didnt actually use the word grief. I just said something like 'emotions from what you've been going through'. I did mention that the area is about relationship, so it made sense that that area is experiencing what it is.

On the plus side she did say that as she knew it might feel worse, she was ok with it. Tricky.

I'm finding this whole sacro-illiac and pelvic area very confusing. I just dont know when i'm going something to help or hinder. Maybe it's all out of my hands, so to speak and I dont have a choice in the matter and the body will do what the body will do.

Tx for reminder of the power of words Derek.
 
You are welcome, Lollo - and thank YOU for taking my comment in the spirit I made it

I would say not to be too concerned that the sacro-iiliac area is so complicated. Do what you are trained to do and listen and feel for the subtle messages from the body that tell you, 'More of that, please!" or, 'a little softer, please.'

Although I do think that a thorough knowledge of anatomy and physiology is important, I don't get hung up on it myself, and although I have studied the work of Debbie Shapiro and others and have a good understanding of how our bodies reflect our emotional state, I don't let that direct my work, either. (Although, of course, either or both of these may affect my intention whilst I work!)

And I don't subscribe to the idea that we should warn our clients that they may feel worse before they feel better. I just want my clients to feel better straight away - and they do! In almost ten years, I have never issued such a warning and, to my knowledge, it has never been necessary.

I'm not bragging here, but I have learned from my experience and the results of my work, to be very confident in what I do. Which is simply to make my clients feel better.

Intention is everything - mine and my client's!

Keep up the good work, Lollo
 
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    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  46. starjey888:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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