MPs vs SPs

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I've never been to either, so I'm a complete noob, but I plan on going for my first time soon.
I was originally going to go to a MP but then I started researching escorts as well.

My question is...why go to an MP when an escort can be even cheaper and you get more?

From what I'm reading, if you go to a place like Premier/Flirt/Seduction, the price is around $150 + $50 (BJ) or $100 (FS).
But if you go to an escort agency like Mirage, it costs $160 for 30 mins and I'm assuming that includes everything (BJ+FS).

I'm assuming there are reasons why people go to MPs and pay $250 for FS instead of just going to an escort to pay $160 for FS.
So what are your reasons for seeing an MP instead of an SP? And what are the pros and cons of each?
 
i believe there is a thread already discussing pros and cons.
 
I've never been to either, so I'm a complete noob, but I plan on going for my first time soon.
I was originally going to go to a MP but then I started researching escorts as well.

My question is...why go to an MP when an escort can be even cheaper and you get more?

From what I'm reading, if you go to a place like Premier/Flirt/Seduction, the price is around $150 + $50 (BJ) or $100 (FS).
But if you go to an escort agency like Mirage, it costs $160 for 30 mins and I'm assuming that includes everything (BJ+FS).

I'm assuming there are reasons why people go to MPs and pay $250 for FS instead of just going to an escort to pay $160 for FS.
So what are your reasons for seeing an MP instead of an SP? And what are the pros and cons of each?

I had/have similar questions. It doesn't make sense. Especially when some spas are B&S and their always seems to be the risk of LEs.

So here is my thoughts. If I am looking for FS, I opt for an SP. And I typically hobby in the $200-300 range for all in for 1 hour. Some ladies charge more; however to me, it is not worth it. I spent $400 for a spinner with amazing pictures. But she was a dud. I go for well reviewed, known ladies. If she is on Leolist, TGTBT and priced right, the percentages are that she is a fake.

If I am sore and need a nicer massage, I go to the spa and typically limit it to $100 inclusive of a HE. And where possible, I try to find someone who works from a private location to avoid the risk of being interrupted by LE. Agnes in Richmond Hill offers a 1 hour massage with a PM HE for $100.

I really don't want to go to a premier spa or a place that is very popular. I don't want to be the 10th client licking a ladies private parts in a day.

I am sure others will shoot holes in my approach or thinking. But it is my money and I will do as I wish. My advice is do what you want and willing to pay. Oh and remember, they only like you because you have cash.

Cheers,
 
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don't forget there may be pimps hiding in the other room at SP. Depends on where you book the SP, it may be a police sting.
Mp allows you check out the products first.
 
Now that many of the women at different spas have become more open minded,
I really doesn't make a difference. Plus I would have to admit that some spa ladies
Are DDG. Nothing like some of these ladies worshiping every part of your body.
And when they shower with you afterwards' hello Bonus !!
 
don't forget there may be pimps hiding in the other room at SP. Depends on where you book the SP, it may be a police sting.
Mp allows you check out the products first.

Perhaps, CupC... But if you play with well established, well known and reviewed ladies, you are fine.

If the lady is available all the time, is very inexpensive, party friendly, then I stay away.
 
Now that many of the women at different spas have become more open minded,
I really doesn't make a difference. Plus I would have to admit that some spa ladies
Are DDG. Nothing like some of these ladies worshiping every part of your body.
And when they shower with you afterwards' hello Bonus !!
Just curious...let’s use premier for example who do you find ddg currently there?
 
I haven't been in a while but judging by some reviews and her twitter account
And her pics Definitely Jennifer. Many of the gorgeous that I met have disappeared
Or retired.
 
I've been moving away from MPs to SPs for the reasons above. Better bang for your buck, you have a bed instead of a massage table, and discrete location. If you browse the reviews on TERB you can get some good Intel on who is worth seeing to mitigate the drawback of not being able to "see the goods" in a lineup before.

For me the main reason to go MP is for the thrill of spontaneously making a choice when presented with a lineup because of the unknown. Also easier to go drop in without significant planning and bookings required for SP.

There are beautiful MPs at spas but the most DDG girl I have ever been with was an SP who also gave incredible, highly skilled service and had great hygiene and a cool personality. Cost me $150 and tipped her a bag of THC Gummies (which we enjoyed together before the session and she seemed to appreciate more than cash). Compare that with Pure or Seduction where same mileage would have cost $100 more.
 
I've been moving away from MPs to SPs for the reasons above. Better bang for your buck, you have a bed instead of a massage table, and discrete location. If you browse the reviews on TERB you can get some good Intel on who is worth seeing to mitigate the drawback of not being able to "see the goods" in a lineup before.

For me the main reason to go MP is for the thrill of spontaneously making a choice when presented with a lineup because of the unknown. Also easier to go drop in without significant planning and bookings required for SP.

There are beautiful MPs at spas but the most DDG girl I have ever been with was an SP who also gave incredible, highly skilled service and had great hygiene and a cool personality. Cost me $150 and tipped her a bag of THC Gummies (which we enjoyed together before the session and she seemed to appreciate more than cash). Compare that with Pure or Seduction where same mileage would have cost $100 more.

Really DDG ? You have to name this sp who cost you $150. How long did she give you 15 min ?
And what's worse is watching the guy she had before you walk by you. And if your 5 mins late
She won't return your calls because she just scooped somebody else. Don't get me wrong, lets
Just say that Mps are in a more controlled environment. Where by you phone in late because
Of traffic. Not so with with independant sps.
 
Really DDG ? You have to name this sp who cost you $150. How long did she give you 15 min ?
And what's worse is watching the guy she had before you walk by you. And if your 5 mins late
She won't return your calls because she just scooped somebody else. Don't get me wrong, lets
Just say that Mps are in a more controlled environment. Where by you phone in late because
Of traffic. Not so with with independant sps.

Interesting as I believe this applies to MPs. There is a queue to see the ladies. We all have our kinks and can justify just about anything.
 
I guess my success rate is more with mps. But just maybe I luv their hands all over me
During the beginning of the session as we proceed to more serious stuff. It definitely gets
Me wound up. But for those who haven't gone to sps I strongly recommend that you do.
I would luv to hear the comments.
 
I'm with you OP.

I don't know why people go to places like Flirt and pay 250 for everything covered when you can go with agency like Mirage SFT HPL and for 140/160 get better service. Not to mention all the Asian agencies like Moonwaiting and ASB who are in a league of their own for the same 160. At the Asian agencies the girl will shower you wipe you blow you rim you fuck you swallow you shower you again give you a bottle of water all with a smile you don't need to lift a finger goodluck getting that at flirt.

Semi legits are nice too because sometimes you want an actual good massage and a relaxing HJ
 
I go to see ladies who work alone, if the lady I am seeing is not available I might go to mp nearby for convenience.


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There is no right of wrong answer..its all in how you like to hobby and what phase your in. I started with the same question few years back on why anyone would spend more. Surprisingly that's where I'm at now.
I have done all scenes ..Asian.. indendent sp ,agency sps ,mpas ,Latin incalls. Premire Spas - hobbied locally ..internationaly ..They all have there pros and cons .

My 2 cents of generalizing
Asian Spas.
Yes Cheap ..but always felt rushed
.no kissing or sensuality. No ass. no tits if you like some meat and variety you wont get at these spas..also asians hold there ages very well..can never guess there age
Good for just providing service - little or no connection with the girls and sometimes language slows down the action.

Independent SPs - gems are there but pics are always fake ..leo list totally fake doors opens and it's not her from the pic. someone hiding in the bathroom and your doing cloak a dagger in hotel parking lot texting to get room numbers and getting no response. Wasted too many times doing this I gave up..plus these ladies are unprofessional after a few wasted trips of confirmed appointments You will get tired and paranoid.

Agency SP..yes Good looking ladies but mostly older adies with milage ..yes some gems but everyone fucks them so your just paying them to open there mouth and legs. You can get great service but after a while it's so fake. I little more organized but mechanical after a while

Latin incalls..yes cheap and These are still around but always in a sketchy spots some gems are there but its hit or miss..mostly miss used to find some great gems back in the days but now its really in and out service. there model is on quantity so Again rushed service .

Premire Spa ..now this the holy grail. Variety of ladies..it attracts younger girls who are just getting started. You have a set time and can plan your day or evening. Some girls provide extras some dont...but it's how well you click. Yes it cost more well that just means she sees less cocks than the other models above and makes more money. if it's out of your price range good for me..less line ups those who can afford it love this model.

Now places like Flirt and some other spas in the west end are useless..I dont see why you would pay 150 or more just for a hand job . Dont care how hot she is..I would rather jerk off. But that's just me and you probably would say why would I spend 250 at Primare and I would say "well that's just me"

You earn it so you spend it on what makes happy and makes you feel good. Every one has different ways to hobby. Only thing that matters is what experience your comfortable with.
 
There is no right of wrong answer..its all in how you like to hobby and what phase your in. I started with the same question few years back on why anyone would spend more. Surprisingly that's where I'm at now.
I have done all scenes ..Asian.. indendent sp ,agency sps ,mpas ,Latin incalls. Premire Spas - hobbied locally ..internationaly ..They all have there pros and cons .

My 2 cents of generalizing
Asian Spas.
Yes Cheap ..but always felt rushed
.no kissing or sensuality. No ass. no tits if you like some meat and variety you wont get at these spas..also asians hold there ages very well..can never guess there age
Good for just providing service - little or no connection with the girls and sometimes language slows down the action.

Independent SPs - gems are there but pics are always fake ..leo list totally fake doors opens and it's not her from the pic. someone hiding in the bathroom and your doing cloak a dagger in hotel parking lot texting to get room numbers and getting no response. Wasted too many times doing this I gave up..plus these ladies are unprofessional after a few wasted trips of confirmed appointments You will get tired and paranoid.

Agency SP..yes Good looking ladies but mostly older adies with milage ..yes some gems but everyone fucks them so your just paying them to open there mouth and legs. You can get great service but after a while it's so fake. I little more organized but mechanical after a while

Latin incalls..yes cheap and These are still around but always in a sketchy spots some gems are there but its hit or miss..mostly miss used to find some great gems back in the days but now its really in and out service. there model is on quantity so Again rushed service .

Premire Spa ..now this the holy grail. Variety of ladies..it attracts younger girls who are just getting started. You have a set time and can plan your day or evening. Some girls provide extras some dont...but it's how well you click. Yes it cost more well that just means she sees less cocks than the other models above and makes more money. if it's out of your price range good for me..less line ups those who can afford it love this model.

Now places like Flirt and some other spas in the west end are useless..I dont see why you would pay 150 or more just for a hand job . Dont care how hot she is..I would rather jerk off. But that's just me and you probably would say why would I spend 250 at Primare and I would say "well that's just me"

You earn it so you spend it on what makes happy and makes you feel good. Every one has different ways to hobby. Only thing that matters is what experience your comfortable with.


This is a great synopsis of the market, generalizing. For me, it is about thinking with my head before thinking with my dick. So I stay away from unreviewed ladies from Leolist. Knowledge is king. I look to this board and terb to see if there is any intel. I prefer the company of indies over agency ladies. Never had a bad experience at either. I just read about some OPs feeling rushed as the lady is booked back to back.
 
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