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boyfriend/girlfriend? Ok here is my situation.... My husband and I have 3 very young children (4 years old, 5 1/2 year old and a soon to be 7 year old).

My husband and I separated about 1 1/2 months ago. The last time my kids saw there father was the beginning of April seeing that he has worked far from home. At that time my husband and I were not separated and he was still living with us but (as mentioned above) we have separated since then.

He just arrived back in town two nights ago and the plans were for him to take the kids out for the afternoon yesterday and next week he was to take them for a few days camping to spend some much needed time with them.

Well this is what happen yesterday... I was informed by my 7 year old daughter that my husband had a "friend" with him. The kids picked up on the fact that there was something strange going on. My daughter claims that they kissed in front of them in which my husband denies and that he said I love you to his "friend" on the phone just before they picked her up - that he never denied.

Him and I have already talked before about if we happened to be involved with anyone else that we would keep it from the children until quite awhile until we were certain the relationship was a long-term lasting relationship. He even mentioned to me that if he was ever involved with anyone else they would never meet the children and I had said to him that that would be ridicules if the relationship became so serious that they decided to move in together....

What really has me upset is that the last time our kids have seen there father was when we were still together. I have been trying to explain to them as best and lightly as I could that their father and I are no longer together and he is no longer living with us anymore when he comes to town. They are having a very difficult time understanding this all due to there age and knowing that last time they saw daddy he was with mommy.

When I spoke to my husband about this I tried to express my concerns about the children meeting a person that he just became involved with so shortly after our separation. Now he can't see what is wrong with it.... even after I told him that my daughter was crying about it because I was crying about it and this confused the children even more.

I asked him if she is going to be there next week when he takes the kids camping and YES!!! he plans on having her there with them!!!! Am I wrong here but is this absolutely wrong what he is doing?

These children need to first totalling understand that mommy and daddy are no longer together and he needs to spend some much needed quality time with just him and his children before anyone else is introduced! Am I wrong here?

I tried to tell him that it is no bodies business, including mine, what he does in his own time. If he wants to be with another woman that is his own business and I am ok with that but I am NOT ok with this woman being there with him and my children at such a confusing time for them! Especially sleeping in the same trailer as them!

I told him that I don't think that is apropriate, that I don't want them to be around her at such an early time and for him to come and get the kids only when he has his priorities in proper order.

Am I wrong here? I just don't want my children getting attached to a person that could be gone the next time they see their father and I don't want them to get the wrong message about relationships.

I hope I can get a variety of responses from a variety of people. I am especially looking for other men's thoughts about this and how they would handle this situation if they were in my husbands shoes.
Sorry so long!
As I mentioned above I have absolutely no problem with him being with another women. We are separating because we weren't getting along and I didn't want to live like that anymore and the kids didn't have to be around all the fighting.... But the kids definitely have to get through him and I separating before either one of us thinks about putting any other person in our children's lives.

The part that gets me upset about this is that my children are upset and it is extremely difficult for them right now. My 5 year old son started crying last night when I was brushing his teeth asking why I can't go camping with them and daddy. That he wanted me to go and not the other lady to be there. That is what breaks my heart about all this. They need so desparetly to get past this separation before a new man/woman is involved - atleast with the kids.....

Also what really upsets me is that my husband and I both agreed only a few weeks ago that if someone new happens to enter either one of
Also what really upsets me is that my husband and I both agreed only a few weeks ago that if someone new happens to enter either one of our lives that we will not introduce them to the children until at a later date that we knew for sure the relationship was definitely serious.....
~~~~~~~I should add that my husband works thousand of miles away and only comes home approximately 4 times in the year. Approximately 2 week each time. So lets really think about this if each time my children see their father and there is a new women with him each time they see him it is sending a wrong message to them.

It would be different if they see him all the time but unfortunately that is not the situation. After next week they will not be seeing him again until Christmas as he has to go back to work. To me if he is still in the same relationship with the same women then a say all the power to her meeting the kids because by that time it could be safe to say that the relationship is serious.

Some people are saying that he should wait a year or more but I DON'T agree with that. I believe that by 6 month of a relationship you pretty much know where it is heading - either out the door or carrying on.
 
IMO you guys are only separated and not divorced. So he should not be dating any one and certainly not having a "friend" along when he has the kids.

When you are divorced and then begin dating, its never a good idea to be exposing the kids to new "step" parents until you are more serious about a permanent relationship.

It messes the kids up too much.
 
This is one of the many on-win situations that divorce creates. If your ex has a new girl friend, there is no way the kids aren't going to pickup on it, so if he tries to hide her, they will know he is lying.

I think they will adjust better and quicker if you two are upfront about it. Unless you and your ex are planning to get back together at some point, and it doesn't sound that way, then be honest with the kids and let them adjust to it.

"even after I told him that my daughter was crying about it because I was crying about it and this confused the children even more." Be careful about projecting your feelings onto your kids. Your daughter is crying because you are upset, not because your ex has a girlfriend. It looks like this is the way it is going to be going forward, so you need to adjust too.

Your ex has a new life, and he wants to share it with his kids. That's not really a bad thing. You will be in the same situation soon, and you will expect the same consideration. Kids are very resilient, and they will adjust.
 
Legally he is still married and sending mixed messages to his kids. Since he has not really seen the kids, for quite some time, this time should be spent with them and not having his time entertaining another woman. You and I both know that this will not be serious unless he has been having an affair for quite some time. You should talk to a lawyer about this with a stipulation that the person staying the night needs to be related . That puts a stop to him having multiple woman in and out of the kids life for a few hours. Of course this will also go for you, you have to learn to have your entertainment with out the kids around. I agree that the kids are not going to understand what is going on, but then kids today are so messed up about relationships because of the parents, no wonder the world is messed up. I also thought you explained yourself very well, and although it was long, it needed to be to express your thoughts.
 
I agree that it is too soon to have anyone else around the kids. You're not even divorced! However, the one thing that I learned from getting divorced is that you cannot control what the other person does. All you can do is "damage control" from their bad decisions. What is really sad is that the kids haven't seen their father in a long time and instead of spending quality time with them, he's parading around the new gf.
 
I'm not an expert but I'd say at least a year, however it would better to wait longer, and frankly if he never sees the kids then he should be spending 100% of his effort on them and not having the woman around when he's with the kids.

I don't know how you would tell him this or enforce it, though.
 
No, you're not wrong at all. Your husband is an idiot. It's obvious that he's not that great of a father because he doesn't realize that that 6 weeks is sufficient time for his kids and he's obviously placing his own needs above them. I feel sorry for your kids.
 
My sister just finalized her divorce. Her ex cheated and left her for the other woman. They have a four year old and a six year old. They decided to keep it from the kids that their dad was with her until after the divorce was finalized, but they caught on sooner. It is a very difficult concept for children to understand. They are already so tender and delicate at this age dealing with a divorce, let alone someone else in their parent's life. You are absolutely right in the way you are feeling. Your husband is selfish and immature and his new girlfriend is as well. If she weren't she wouldn't be with him and she would never condone this. I can't believe that SHE is comfortable with this. I wouldn't let them go camping with your husband. It is just too much.
 
Children learn from their childhood - they have friends that come and go and so do their parents - everyone has friends that come and go . . . its a natural process - now if dad has a new girl around every other week- that is different but having someone they care about around your children is NOT a bad thing ...

1. Let him go. Your husband. He has moved on.

2. Your soon to be ex is allowed to have friends. He just is. Male, female etc. He is allowed to include his children in on his life. IT IS allowed.

3. As soon as you move on from all this drama and get your own life, you will understand.

4. STOP CRYING in front of your children. You need to be strong and keep them out of this.

Good luck
 
My rule of thumb is 6 months...by then you know if it's a relationship that is going to last or not.

I think men don't generally follow that rule of thumb...by nature they are selfish creatures and he's not really thinking with his brain - he's letting his head lead him along...

I'm not saying all men are like that, but let's be honest - most are.

My girlfriend went through the same thing with her ex. Her daughter would wake up early in the morning and call her all upset about strange women sleeping over (he went through a string of them for a while). It broke her heart and she had trouble answering the questions her then 6 year old had. It stinks. You just have to muddle through the best you can...
 
Yes its wrong of him to bring someone new in front of the kids this early.. my x husband did that right away as well and my 3 yr old went from being potty trained to not being potty trained (his way of handling stress at that age) and was constantly asking why daddy was "kissing" another girl. Little ones cant understand whats going on.. all they understand is that mommy and daddy arent together, and they feel the stress of whats going on even if they cant make sense of it. Your husband needs to be forced into taking a parenting class.. (alot of states have them and in some its mandatory to take it before getting the divorce finalized) .. Im going to be honest with u.. theres not a whole lot u can do about it.. You could try to get it put in the Seperation agreement that no other persons are to be around the kids during the seperation.. persons of a romantic nature.. but i dont know if they would enforce it or not if he disagrees with it... but it definately hurts the children.. confuses them more, stresses them more.. and BOTH of you should NEVER introduce the kids to someone unless its extremely serious meaning your planing on marrying this person.. because its not good for kids to have to keep going through "Divorce" and thats what happens when they get close to your bf or his gf's and then they break up and another adult gone out of their lives.. they learn to not trust people,have abandonment issues , and security issues.. in a nut shell "your husband is a dumbass for not putting his kids best interests ahead of his own personal feelings"
 
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    wonderspa: wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey in duty,open maid,very beautiful,amazing massage,happy the end ,really popular girl,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  32. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  33. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  34. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLily Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  43. DareDevil:
    SUNDAY SUPER LINEUP! ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. SHAYLA
  50. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey in duty,open maid,very beautiful,amazing massage,happy the end ,really popular girl,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ
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