HLH observation about renos and girls

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Well, first off I've been watching this place grow and change since the Zona Blue days, both good and bad. I liked the expansion of the bar but didn't like what happened when it expanded, because it moved all the girls to a wall bench and created an us/them mentality in my mind. Guys at the bar, women on the wall, and that wasn't at all what the vibe had been like before. Still, the space was nice.

Fast forward a few years and now they are rebuilding the bar again. Moved the bench out and put in these little tables that come away from the wall. So what happens? The girls mob up on the tables instead of the bench, and now we're watching as the girls sit in that space and eat pasta, which for the life of me I can't figure out why they allow.

I find that a lot of the friendly vibe that used to exist is gone, and if it were my I would say that the girls should be forced to not all sit at those wall tables/benches, or maybe to limit the number in that space at a time and have some at the bar or some such ,and move them around a bit. Make the place a bit more sociable again. I have never, ever, seen such a grim looking bunch of women as i did on my last visit to HLH in November. I was also absolutely prohibit them from eating meals in that area. If they are going to eat then use one of the areas and come back. Who wants to look at scantily clad women stuffing their face with pasta and making a mess of the sitting are? It was a singularly unappealing visual, and we wonder where the panzitas are coming from. lol
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I don't know whether the plan is to put some more tables in there or not, although I could see they were doing stuff in the back, but I think that would also be helpful.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Seabreeze said:
Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
I respectfully disagree, Seabreeze. Not to start up the whole Boyd thing again, but the Giant had great promotions and he brought customers in. That is what the restaurant/bar business is all about, volume. Of course you can't bankrupt the place by giving away too many freebies, but if you get more guys in they will spend money and that equals profits.
 
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Still trying to figure out whats a "Reno" :?:
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope it's not Janet Reno. :?
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
 
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Scuba1 said:
Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
No, sir, not even I with my beer goggles on would I phuck her. She would need a major RENOVATION.
 
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HLH observation about renos and girls

yes, renos means renovations. sorry. it's so common around it that I took the expression for granted.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope Newfangle's right, and that it turns around soon. I'm all for freebies and giveaways, but if the product is good then you don't have to give it away. I would pay for a quality product and a fun experience and I think most of you would agree. It just makes sense. Instead of the girls sitting in bored clusters wondering why no one is buying they could interact with their client and make it happen. Happier, more entertained clients stay longer and session more. Guys are happy, girls are happy. Management gets a cut and is happy too. It's just about creating a culture, and that's business 101, or should be, for those directly involved. The girls don't have the acumen to do it themselves and so the push has to come from management.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  37. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  38. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  39. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  40. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  43. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  45. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young new pretty tenant Sherry 28โ€™s with curve body open mind and young cute Lily 25โ€™s with curve body,young flirty Michelle with big buttocks 25โ€™s open mind and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธMilly๐ŸŒธCarly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  50. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
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