HLH observation about renos and girls

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Well, first off I've been watching this place grow and change since the Zona Blue days, both good and bad. I liked the expansion of the bar but didn't like what happened when it expanded, because it moved all the girls to a wall bench and created an us/them mentality in my mind. Guys at the bar, women on the wall, and that wasn't at all what the vibe had been like before. Still, the space was nice.

Fast forward a few years and now they are rebuilding the bar again. Moved the bench out and put in these little tables that come away from the wall. So what happens? The girls mob up on the tables instead of the bench, and now we're watching as the girls sit in that space and eat pasta, which for the life of me I can't figure out why they allow.

I find that a lot of the friendly vibe that used to exist is gone, and if it were my I would say that the girls should be forced to not all sit at those wall tables/benches, or maybe to limit the number in that space at a time and have some at the bar or some such ,and move them around a bit. Make the place a bit more sociable again. I have never, ever, seen such a grim looking bunch of women as i did on my last visit to HLH in November. I was also absolutely prohibit them from eating meals in that area. If they are going to eat then use one of the areas and come back. Who wants to look at scantily clad women stuffing their face with pasta and making a mess of the sitting are? It was a singularly unappealing visual, and we wonder where the panzitas are coming from. lol
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I don't know whether the plan is to put some more tables in there or not, although I could see they were doing stuff in the back, but I think that would also be helpful.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Seabreeze said:
Newfangle9 said:
I stayed at HLH in November, and I noticed that there just wasn't as much going on as there was during my stay back in April. I didn't see any girls up on the counter dancing and stripping this trip. It was almost a nightly thing in April. If I didn't get to the bar early enough I had trouble finding a seat anywhere. This trip I don't think I ever saw more than ten or so people during prime time. Everything was just slower, and I started leaving in the evening to find something going on. Having the girls all bunched together in small groups at the new tables made them much less approachable, at least to me. Things were so slow one night I bought all the girls there a round of drinks just to try and shake things up a bit, and it worked for about five minutes. Don't get me wrong, I do like HLH, and I realize that it is a work in progress. I chatted with Jeff quite a bit, and I got the feeling he will turn it around. I'm looking forward to a trip back without most of my time sitting in a dentist's chair. That will probably not be for six months or so, but I have hunch that I will be staying at HLH again.

Good comments. I don't know if Jeff will get the energy back but I know he is trying. And he is doing it the right way. The times I have been in after Thanksgiving it has been pretty busy.

There was much more going on when The Giant ran the show. Easy to draw a crowd and have a party atmosphere when you are giving out drinks on the house every few minutes. And free sessions. The problem with that is you will eventually go broke.
I respectfully disagree, Seabreeze. Not to start up the whole Boyd thing again, but the Giant had great promotions and he brought customers in. That is what the restaurant/bar business is all about, volume. Of course you can't bankrupt the place by giving away too many freebies, but if you get more guys in they will spend money and that equals profits.
 
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Still trying to figure out whats a "Reno" :?:
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope it's not Janet Reno. :?
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

Scuba1 said:
Bet you'd like to Phuck her, huh - I would not do her with Greengos invisible prick

I suspect rennovation is what the Op was getting at, although I've never seen - or heard - it expressed that way
No, sir, not even I with my beer goggles on would I phuck her. She would need a major RENOVATION.
 
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HLH observation about renos and girls

yes, renos means renovations. sorry. it's so common around it that I took the expression for granted.
 
HLH observation about renos and girls

I hope Newfangle's right, and that it turns around soon. I'm all for freebies and giveaways, but if the product is good then you don't have to give it away. I would pay for a quality product and a fun experience and I think most of you would agree. It just makes sense. Instead of the girls sitting in bored clusters wondering why no one is buying they could interact with their client and make it happen. Happier, more entertained clients stay longer and session more. Guys are happy, girls are happy. Management gets a cut and is happy too. It's just about creating a culture, and that's business 101, or should be, for those directly involved. The girls don't have the acumen to do it themselves and so the push has to come from management.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  35. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446
  36. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  37. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  38. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Nancy, Tina and Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  39. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Sunday June 1, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Lucy ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCandy๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒ. 4young beautiful girls working everyda,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very beautiful face,open maid,amazing touch,happy the end,give you warm and comfortable time,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Saturday๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,๐Ÿ†•Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jennyโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!๐Ÿ™Œ
  44. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl angel very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask...
  45. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  48. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ NEW LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  50. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (12pm-9pm) is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA (10am-9pm)
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