Review Echo - SL West - The tale of two (2) visits - Oakville/Mississauga

[Lalallala]

It' my opinion that most of the girls work hard and do their best to provide a great experience.
We are lucky to have them available, generally well paid, but most are lucky to see such beauties.

I agree that, in general, most girls in the industry do work hard. At least anyone with any longevity has to work fairly hard to keep their looks and their sanity dealing with the myriad of guys that comes into the rooms. Even if I have a succession of less than ideal sessions (like with an MPA last night), I don’t really blame the girl. Just a bad matchup. I think there’s just been one girl I disliked in the semi industry.. but even then there’s lots of guys that like her.

I appreciate the women that we have access to in this industry.

 

[BasedD]

I agree that, in general, most girls in the industry do work hard. At least anyone with any longevity has to work fairly hard to keep their looks and their sanity dealing with the myriad of guys that comes into the rooms. Even if I have a succession of less than ideal sessions (like with an MPA last night), I don’t really blame the girl. Just a bad matchup. I think there’s just been one girl I disliked in the semi industry.. but even then there’s lots of guys that like her.

I appreciate the women that we have access to in this industry.

I appreciate them with $$$.

Large before action tips are a great indicator of effort/no effort. I can say the amount of times i have gotten mid or lazy service after a large pre-tip is super, super rare.

Its ok to be shallow and blunt on both sides of a money motivated arrangement. I am certain of a few ladies who get more wet at the sight of 1k$ than a 6pack of abs lol...

 

[JimiNY]

That’s all fine and dandy but he got his feelings hurt the poor baby and then attacked her saying she had an itch which he then referred to the LL post. The sadass got hurt and responded as such. Once again here come the goons

 

[JimiNY]

 

[Social-Misfit]

Your the master of disguise Jimmy-crack-corn-hole.
Between yer alter ids, and ability to doctor photos i wouldn't trust you as far as I can toss yer scrawny old ass

 

[JimiNY]

That’s all fine and dandy but he got his feelings hurt the poor baby and then attacked her saying she had an itch which he then referred to the LL post. The sadass got hurt and responded as such. Once again here come the goons

 

[BasedD]

If this is how jimmy and renee crashout on good clients imagine what they do/say to the girls.

 

[Sundance69]

Duplicate post #1 - @JimiNY is posting everywhere ... someone should break his fingers.


Good morning @JimiNY ... lost public relations battle did you, so you'll rehash this until the end of time.
The review was reasonably decent. Did you happen to ask about the tipping.

TRYING TO DISCREDIT A CUSTOMER (YES A GOON) IS NOT WAY TO MAKE YOUR OTHERS CUSTOMES FEEL GOOD. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.

Maybe you could address the main issues here at SL West.

Let’s look at SL West’s first year:
A sudden rebrand from V&V to SL West.
Hype, instability, inspections, police presence, rumors of STDs.
MassagePlanet feed: cancelled, restarted, posting, not posting—it’s chaos.
Customers banned, muted, and deleted.

TRYING TO DISCREDIT A CUSTOMER (YES A GOON) IS NOT WAY TO MAKE YOUR OTHERS CUSTOMES FEEL GOOD.

CUSTOMERS WILL NOT GO TO A SPA WITH CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH, ABOUT POLICE AND ONE THEY CAN'T TRUST, YOU ARE CHAOS.

NOBODY CARES, SO JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND GO AWAY. YOU HAVE NOT BE BANNED OR BLOCKED HERE, SO JUST GO AWAY WITH SOME DIGNITY.

The old Scotts would say this to you "On your bike Jimmy" ... English transition, "FUCK OFF"

In Scarborough we say, "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on".

HAPPY SUNDAY - SUNDAY, FUNDAY!

 

[Sundance69]

Duplicate post #2 - @JimiNY is posting everywhere ... someone should break his fingers. Sorry gents ...


Lastly Jimmy, I don't care about SL West, I never liked the hype and noise, constant posting, constant pushing of reviews, and huge return texts on booking.
The place is cold, the texting is cold, the reception is cold, Rene is only bright spot, and you are nightmare.

I've only visited 6 or 7 times in a year, so I'm not an important customer. BUT, your important customers are reading this.
They see how you treat customers, that don't follow what you want.

They have other options, as I noted yesterday, you are chasing away business, you have to try and win, so you discredit and disrespect your customers.
As I told you this is NOT the EAST END, your bully tactics, antagonistic position will only drive away customers.

So do us both a favour, and may other members. it's done, it's done, it's over. you've discredited me (or tried, maybe), and you and your spa are stained.
The fact remains I have a long history here, and while there will be some detractors, maybe many, I've been a very good source of income for girls and spas alike.

So, for your own benefit, why not just let sleeping dogs lie? The members here will appreciate it, they don't have a a dog in this fight. Nothing is going to change here now.
Just like the Americans, they were build on a fight, and many of us from Scarborough are the same, nothing like a little scrap before we start the hockey game.

Take a lesson here, sometimes things don't work out, sometimes customer and girls dont match. Sometimes you should just accept that.

Fact - CUSTOMERS WILL NOT GO TO A SPA WITH CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH, ABOUT POLICE AND ONE THEY CAN'T TRUST, YOU ARE CHAOS.

This feed belongs to the members, not the spa owners ... move along, nothing to see here now.

Happy Sunday

 

[cl794]

When she returned to the room, the tone shifted.
She clearly stated “no touch,” gesturing toward her intimate areas, and muttered something about an “itch.”
That alone was enough to make me uncomfortable, especially considering how relaxed our first encounter had been.
My instinct kicked in—I decided to leave.

She apologized, helped me with my shirt, and kissed me goodbye.
I left her a $50 tip out of respect.
When I told Rene it just wasn’t the right fit, she refunded my $60.

I’ve never experienced such a stark contrast between two sessions.
Maybe it was just a bad day. Maybe a previous client pushed boundaries.
Maybe it was simply a mismatch of energy the second time around.
The truth is, I don’t know.

But I do know this: consistency is key, especially in a business built on trust and connection.
I walked away feeling disappointed and confused—not angry, just unsure.
I won’t be returning for some time, and I can’t recommend Echo or SL West at the moment.
The second experience? A 3/10

so you tipped her $50, for, meeting her?

 

[Sundance69]

so you tipped her $50, for, meeting her?

Yes sir, first meeting was good (period) so limited. 1 hour tip $100 / second meeting 10 minutes late, 5 min in the room, she showered, came out, so 10 minutes total (she undressed immediately). So, YES, I left her $50 and paid Rene $60.
Rene chased me out the door, and returned the $60. Unfortunate, as it seems in reading, translation issue, she felt I was mean, I'm never mean with the girls, generally if not happy tip and go, not much point.

In this case, I was concerned for two reasons - first showering when she arrived, then telling me no touching while naked, then telling me about "itch", kind of unsettled me. I can't help but wonder if FS was the appointment ahead of me?
Seriously she's a very nice girl, good heart, kind ... but what happened that day was "off", once of the reasons, seems pressure on the girls to perform or put out? I really don't know, but something was off that day.

What's done is done, I won't be back, what I found most despicable is @JimiNY creating a post, trying to discredit me the customer, and then removing my comments and banning me, then try to continually discredit me.
Some very wrong over there if is business as usual, This tactic, it explains why he has so many detractors here online, especially in the east end, he's not respected or appreciated by the veterans in the EAST END.

Now he's trying to bully his way here in the west end. The spa isn't on my list of good spas, only been there a few times, but the conduct towards the customer is disgraceful. So caution is advised to all members.
In my humble opinion, in all my years, I've never encountered a spa or spa marketer - disrespecting customers, trying to discredit customers because they were not happy. Very Unusual ... especially when a phone call would take care of this.

Thanks for the note - Rene should fire this dumb fucker, he's bad for business, bad for the spa, and bad for the WEST END. We don't need this conduct here.

 

[cl794]

Sundance, just chatting with Echo and it seems you left out some juicy details in your recent review with her. She does claim you saw her twice and she refuses to give you her phone number. At this point I am suggesting your review is not credible and then have a chat with the boss to verify.

It's actually just gross and pitiful when promoters can't even take *one* negative review.

Everyone knows that age is generally under-stated. Everyone knows that review, especially from promoters, are often exaggerations. This is most obvious on the massage part, but nobody says anything b/c everyone understands that some consideration and slack must be given.

Even when we get tricked/"scammed" by overrated reviews and get service that's much less than expectation. Majority don't even complain. And almost everyone understands that's just the risk of the hobby. You simply gets scammed out of your money sometimes. People simply expect it and don't flip out over it.

Yet, when promoters see *one* negative review. They totally flip out. What do they think they're doing? Do you think the spa girls never do anything wrong? They never have a bad session? What do you think would happen if you just own the mistake? Like do you think the customer was going to sue the girl to small claims court? So you have to insist they did nothing wrong? What do you think you're doing?

This is how customers expect to be treated? Really? This is how you treat customers? You attack customers for one bad review? Really?

Is it creepy when the girls offer you their number unsolicited?

Didn't you get the memo? It's only customers that could be creepy/wrong/rude. The worker is always right. ............. hmmm, that doesn't sound right. .....................

Insult? How do you figure it was an insult?

If she gives you her number, then it is her choice

Asking for it is creepy as fuck. Now she feels pressure to give it or to make things weird like it happened to Sundance.

Don't you see the difference?

How is it not creepy? What if the guy doesn't want the number? He never asked for the number. Why is she giving it to him? Now he feels pressured to take the number, otherwise it feels like he's rejecting her. How is not weird? Can you read at all? Better yet, can you think at all?

 

[cl794]

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Do you think you got the truth of what happened from the girls? As if they won't lie to put blame on the customer. Yeah, they never lie. Keep trusting them. Keep on only getting their side of story. That will keep doing you good!

 

[Sundance69]

Do you think you got the truth of what happened from the girls? As if they won't lie to put blame on the customer. Yeah, they never lie. Keep trusting them. Keep on only getting their side of story. That will keep doing you good!

To be fair, I think she's a very good girl, kind and nice, and I think a bit of a cultural, translation issue must have occurred, my first session was good ...

Let's not discredit her any further. My review is clear, it was a set of circumstances. That happens. a bad day, not a great fit, a misunderstanding ... we'll never know and I was there. Something was off.

What is wrong with situation is Jimmy and this "graphic" post trying to discredit a customer and ban anyone who doesn't do what he wants. This is control of the stream, disrespect to a customer and trying to control the hype and the noise.
Jimmy's conduct is completely disrespectful, not only to me, but all customers .... he's well known in the EAST END, and not well regarded, he has many who despise him, I think that speaks volumes.

I don't think our members want to be bullied or harassed by a spa, or spa owner or spa marketer. This feed belongs to the members, it's a place for spas to try and control the narrative.

Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

 

[cl794]

To be fair, I think she's a very good girl, kind and nice, and I think a bit of a cultural, translation issue must have occurred, my first session was good ...

Let's not discredit her any further. My review is clear, it was a set of circumstances. That happens. a bad day, not a great fit, a misunderstanding ... we'll never know and I was there. Something was off.

My emphasis is not that she, personally, has bad moral character, and is therfore lying etc just to attack OP.

Like you said, it's a bad set of circumstances, but one of the consequence of the bad set of circumstances is that she will put the blame on others when asked about it. It's almost reflective self-protection. With their English skills and circumstances, do you think she's going to give a nuanced account and do all she can to paint a fair picture?


@JimiNY couldn't even provide more screenshots of answers. Ok, what else did she say? Was she late by 10 minutes? She wasn't late? At least provide her saying she wasn't late!

Oh she was late? Is that the service your spa provides? every girl is always late by 10 minutes? Omg, have an ounce of decency. How old are you ? You should be over 30 right? Shouldn't you be old enough to realize that owning some mistakes isn't the end of the world?

 

[TheIceman]

I am most concerned as a client with her saying she has an itch down there…..

 

[Sundance69]

I am most concerned as a client with her saying she has an itch down there…..

That is how I felt, especially as it was reported her (not fact) but reported. Maybe it was her way of distancing me? I really don't know what went wrong.
As noted she's good girl, and I enjoyed see her the first time (the reason for my return). It's done, I think she's find, would be my guess.

The 20 minutes there that day, were not very good that's for certain.

But the 36 hour post visit nonsense with Jimmy, well, not that is bad for business, disrespectful and. only hurts the spa.
What's done is done, I suggest we all move forward, with some caution noting that whatever is posted is Jimmy Propaganda, as all descenters are bullied and blocked.

Have a great Sunday Gents, as always, Let's be careful out there.