Advice for Newbie and Avoiding STD's

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Hello

I've been a lurker here for about a year now. I'm in my 50's, separated, and looking to try out the hobby. I'm not rushing to get into anything, perhaps a HJ or a CBJ at this point. I'm primarily interested in asian girls.

Not ready for FS, DATY, or DIGITS. I'm also terrified about the risks of STD's and crabs. I'm looking for a spa that places a premium on sanitization and cleanliness.

I like the girls at QQ, 99Kingzone, and the VIPSPA19 collection. Girlfriend416 might not be for me at this point, although I am open to it down the road.

Any suggestions? Curious to hear your thoughts on how clean these spa's really are. I've heard that the towels and bedsheets are not even changed on the tables between customers at a few establishments.
 
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So it sounds like you lie the Asian spas. I suggest easing your way into the hobby. Go to Suko first as that will be like dipping your toes into the water. Then move up to Just Relax, Shangri-La, Blue Nile and Golden Rosewater.

If you want to go the non-Asian route, go to Flirt. Itโ€™s a bodyrub so the massage is not the focus.
 
Hello

I've been a lurker here for about a year now. I'm in my 50's, separated, and looking to try out the hobby. I'm not rushing to get into anything, perhaps a HJ or a CBJ at this point. I'm primarily interested in asian girls.

Not ready for FS, DATY, or DIGITS. I'm also terrified about the risks of STD's and crabs. I'm looking for a spa that places a premium on sanitization and cleanliness.

I like the girls at QQ, 99Kingzone, and the VIPSPA19 collection. Girlfriend416 might not be for me at this point, although I am open to it down the road.

Any suggestions? Curious to hear your thoughts on how clean these spa's really are. I've heard that the towels and bedsheets are not even changed on the tables between customers at a few establishments.
โ€ฆ stick w HJ & u can hobby 50 yrs nvr catch anythng ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ well, respiratory like COVID, sure, but no STIs โ€ฆ or crabsโ€ฆ ๐Ÿฆ€

TBH, nvr heard anyone getting crabs these daysโ€ฆ if girl shaves, they got nowhere 2 hide, & if u do DATY, e-z 2 inspectโ€ฆ :lick

Places @Hornet mentions = very cleanโ€ฆ cant go wrong any of themโ€ฆ Id add eSpa 2โ€ฆ. Shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, & girls use โ€˜mโ€ฆ luv that clean bleachy smells f/ clean towelsโ€ฆ when I bike near a spa & smell that, gets me going ๐Ÿ† โ€ฆ hard not 2 visit!

Fear of STIs :sick gonna mess w yer funtimesโ€ฆ lotsa pretty girls @ semilegit / semiholistic places, stick w them unless yer fear goes awayโ€ฆ seriously, hard 2 cum if yer worriedโ€ฆ :unsure

When I started hobbying every wk @ semilegit place, definitely noticed minor illnessesโ€ฆ like sore throat, lil skin rashโ€ฆ just being intimate w girls who get intimate w lotsa dudes, even w/o fs, germs get passed aroundโ€ฆ sporting hazardโ€ฆ but it passes, esp if u keep fit, eat healthy, get enuf sleepโ€ฆ
 
I have been at this game for a long time, longer that I care to admit, Never caught anything even on the occasions I went bare back.

Stay away rom doubtful coochies and learn to be selective as to where you put it in.

starting slow is the key so you learn who is safe, remember that appearances are deceitful. A clean looking girl could be an STD cesspool

At any time you are not sure go see your doctor.
 
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So it sounds like you lie the Asian spas. I suggest easing your way into the hobby. Go to Suko first as that will be like dipping your toes into the water. Then move up to Just Relax, Shangri-La, Blue Nile and Golden Rosewater.

If you want to go the non-Asian route, go to Flirt. Itโ€™s a bodyrub so the massage is not the focus.

Thanks for the info. I had never heard of these spa's before. Are they semit legit? How far are they willing to go at these places?
 
โ€ฆ stick w HJ & u can hobby 50 yrs nvr catch anythng ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ well, respiratory like COVID, sure, but no STIs โ€ฆ or crabsโ€ฆ ๐Ÿฆ€

TBH, nvr heard anyone getting crabs these daysโ€ฆ if girl shaves, they got nowhere 2 hide, & if u do DATY, e-z 2 inspectโ€ฆ :lick

Places @Hornet mentions = very cleanโ€ฆ cant go wrong any of themโ€ฆ Id add eSpa 2โ€ฆ. Shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, & girls use โ€˜mโ€ฆ luv that clean bleachy smells f/ clean towelsโ€ฆ when I bike near a spa & smell that, gets me going ๐Ÿ† โ€ฆ hard not 2 visit!

Fear of STIs :sick gonna mess w yer funtimesโ€ฆ lotsa pretty girls @ semilegit / semiholistic places, stick w them unless yer fear goes awayโ€ฆ seriously, hard 2 cum if yer worriedโ€ฆ :unsure

When I started hobbying every wk @ semilegit place, definitely noticed minor illnessesโ€ฆ like sore throat, lil skin rashโ€ฆ just being intimate w girls who get intimate w lotsa dudes, even w/o fs, germs get passed aroundโ€ฆ sporting hazardโ€ฆ but it passes, esp if u keep fit, eat healthy, get enuf sleepโ€ฆ

Good info. What about crabs from the sheets? This is one of the reason's I'm scared of incalls. Who knows what's in there!

Heard of e-spa. I assume it's semi legit?

What's the risk of syphilis or herpes from a HJ?

Your right about the viruses. COVID of course is also a concern.
 
I have been at this game for a long time, longer that I care to admit, Never caught anything even on the occasions I went bare back.

Stay away rom doubtful coochies and learn to be selective as to where you put it in.

starting slow is the key so you learn who is safe, remember that appearances are deceitful. A clean looking girl could be and STD cesspool

At any time you are not sure go see your doctor.

I guess it's a lot of trial and error. What are your thoughts on incalls? Are they usually clean?
 
If all you're interested in is a good masaage and a hand-release or cbj, you should relax and enjoy the semi-legitimate services at Shangri-La, Just Relax, Golden Rosewater, or Blue Nile. All but Just Relax also slide toward the semi-holistic as well - each of them is clean and professional.

However...

You seem anxious as can be about this, imagining every possible disaster that might befall you. If you don't relax you'll spend your money for nothing but worry.
 
If all you're interested in is a good masaage and a hand-release or cbj, you should relax and enjoy the semi-legitimate services at Shangri-La, Just Relax, Golden Rosewater, or Blue Nile. All but Just Relax also slide toward the semi-holistic as well - each of them is clean and professional.

At this point your right, this is primarily what I am looking for

However...

You seem anxious as can be about this, imagining every possible disaster that might befall you. If you don't relax you'll spend your money for nothing but worry.

Your right about this as well. I guess being a germ freak doesn't help. Well said brother.
 
I guess it's a lot of trial and error. What are your thoughts on incalls? Are they usually clean?
Same rules apply for In calls, but as for the cleanliness of sheets etc. I can't testify to that, I know at MPs you get a fresh table cover every time but at in calls is a different game,
 
Thanks for the info. I had never heard of these spa's before. Are they semit legit? How far are they willing to go at these places?
Suko is the most semi-legit of them all. A HE is available. Some more can be had with some girls but this is a tighter run ship so donโ€™t expect much from Suko which is why itโ€™s a good place to start out. Overall, donโ€™t expect more than a bodyslide in most cases.
 
Suko is the most semi-legit of them all. A HE is available. Some more can be had with some girls but this is a tighter run ship so donโ€™t expect much from Suko which is why itโ€™s a good place to start out. Overall, donโ€™t expect more than a bodyslide in most cases.
Suko gives good service, etc. but I found the walls were paper thin and not my thing to hear everything that goes on on adjacent rooms.
 
Good info. What about crabs from the sheets? This is one of the reason's I'm scared of incalls. Who knows what's in there!

Heard of e-spa. I assume it's semi legit?

What's the risk of syphilis or herpes from a HJ?

Your right about the viruses. COVID of course is also a concern.
Msg places always change sheets btwn clientsโ€ฆ @ least ones mentioned hereโ€ฆ incalls @ hotels? Nope! :unsure

eSpa = full menu placeโ€ฆ just remarkably clean, shower ๐Ÿšฟ in every rm, theyโ€™re constantly cleaning surfaces & flrsโ€ฆ I hung around talkng w mgr a few times when itโ€™s not busy & girls sweeping & mopping ๐Ÿงน when itโ€™s quietโ€ฆ no wonder theyโ€™re so happy when a client arrives!

Syph/herpes ๐Ÿฆ  โ€ฆ u can get f/ legit msgโ€ฆ or hj โ€ฆ or cfsโ€ฆ they donโ€™t moralizeโ€ฆ require skin2skin contact or skin/mucosal membraneโ€ฆ if u stay away f/ someone w active sores, chance = minimal, but not zeroโ€ฆ if u donโ€™t notice any outbreak , itโ€™s fractions of 1%โ€ฆ
 
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    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ190 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Fun Girl Angela, New Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  31. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Tiffany She is new as MPA From Philippines Slim Body Great Massage Fun personality Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed
  32. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Tiffany, Vivian and Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  33. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday May 28, 2025, our attendants will be Carla ๐Ÿ’‹, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿ˜ and Yoyo ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  34. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  35. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  36. Sabrina Fox:
    I'M HOT BUSTY AFRICAN GIRL AVAILABLE AT WESTON & ST. CLAIR. LETS HOOK UP! ๐Ÿ“ž 647-271-9648
  37. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Gabby , sunny , larissa , lora, michelle , christine on duty at top notch.
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธViennese girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  41. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. Red Rose Spa:
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  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (1PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  48. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Lucy, Killer Kelly, Adorable Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญLUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
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