Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

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Have had a proplapsed L5 for 8 years. Was manageble up until a couple of years ago when the pain moved about a bit and my back has got so painful and tender that at times just the pressure of a cushion makes me want to vomit. Have been on 1 x amiltryptyline for past 2 years which helps, but puts me in a coma for most of the day.

Had a visit to a very patronising and depressing Pain Clinic doc this week who told me I'll never get better if I dont exercise (like I didnt know that) and that at my age (48) I have to expect pain to increase in all areas of my life as "after all I have to die of something". He has told me to take 8 paracetomol, 4 tramadol and a pregabalin a day which seems heck of a lot to me. Havent yet tried the pregabalin but the others are making me really dizzy and wanting to be sick and not helping greatly. Have an epidural injection booked for June and an MRI, but have been told unlikely to help and I am def not considered for surgery. He says I should take the lot and then "grit my teeth and exercise".

This is just bit of a 'get it off my chest' post as only another sufferer of this would have any understanding....
 
Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

Do you see a chiropractor? Can wholeheartedly recommend finding a good one. If you do go to one then try another, they all seem to work their magic in different ways and have different areas of expertise.

I had severe disc problems about 13 yrs ago, did the physio and exercises at home, and a 'back school' for 6 weeks. I self manage my problems now and see a chiropractor regularly who puts everything back where it should be. I had to train myself to use my body in a different way..... to bend, use the hoover, wash up, stand up.... get out of bed, everything. Muscles switch off when you have chronic back problems and your body stops using them when it moves about, making the problems and pressure on the discs worse. You need to do specific exercises to 'switch' the muscles back on again so your body uses them to hold your posture. For me it took 6 months of consistent work every day, but it did pay off.

There is lots of info on the net about the exercises that you can do to mobilse the joints freeing the nerves, encourage the discs to sit in the correct place, and switch the muscles on that connect the vertebrae together (not forgetting the core muscles). Just 'exercising' isn't going to help unless you are taught how to use your body correctly and target the muscle groups involved in holding posture which are involuntary.

Yoga, pilates and alexander technique are excelllent for improving core strength (Wii fit???). You may find that the exercises cause your back to ache badly the first few times but this will subside as you build the core strength and start using these muscle again, without thinking in your everyday activities.

Hope this helps, and you have an improvement soon!

love, light and Reiki to you!
 
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Have tried Pregabalin and Gabapentin, what a waste of time, all it's given me is problems with my eyes, thanks alot pain management Dr lol, have to go back on 15th April for another consultation, which I know is going to be a waste of time Take care x
 
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I have been to oesteopaths, chiropracters, physios and acupuncturists over the years yet they end up referring me back to the pain clinic so round in circles. Am trying to fix up Pilates.

My head is absolutely swimming from all these drugs so far...!
 
Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

Have you considered having your disc removed and the spine fused? That may be the best option.
 
Patronising pain clinic, drugs & jobs!

Hi eden.eden

Sorry to hear you have had such a bad experience and are experiencing so much pain. The symptoms you are describing are most likely due to the Tramadol. It is renowned for these side effects. It is unlikely to be the paracetamol.

Pregabalin is supposed to be a cleaner drug than Gabapentin as it is the "next generation" drug developed by the original makers of Gabapentin as a response to the end of their sole licence thingy which would allow the drug to be manufactured as a generic and not solely as a branded one. Big pharma is a nightmare as is the legislation stuff.

Chronic pain management should not be a one size fits all because that is certainly not the case in my experience. Targeted paced exercise can help. The injection may be of limited benefit but it is only really helpful if it is combined with appropriate input on exercise, posture etc. As far as I am aware there is only very limited evidence for use of epidural injections in lower back pain. The study done down here actually showed that they are a waste of time and money in the long run and that it is not possible to predict whether anyone will get any benefit, how much, how long.

Don't take anything you don't want to or that makes you feel unwell. If the clinic doc insists, put your foot down. It is your body and you have a right to decline or accept treatment as you see fit without prejudice.

In the meantime it is worth investigating other means of managing your pain and possibly learning what your body is trying to tell you at other levels.

Hope you start to see some positive results soon.
 
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For what its worth, I just thought I would add my 2 penny's worth. I am prescribed what is effectively an overdose of tramadol a day - with absolutely no effect whatsover, and with no side effects either. I also take topirate, the epilepsy medication for pain that has some pretty nasty side effects but apparently no pain relief.

I have had 3 epidurals. 2 Lumbar and 1 caudal. I was assured the caudal - which I had 2 months ago - had a much greater chance of success. But nada. Nothing. Absolutely no impact at all.

I am so sorry eden.eden that you have such a poor and patronising pain clinic doc. I met one like that today so i especially sympathise. It is incredibly demoralising and it can make you feel completely desperate.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  43. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  46. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  47. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  48. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  49. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
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