Don't make the same mistake

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Today, I realized the importance of being careful when seeing MPAs, and SPs in general. While basically a noob myself, I have a handful of experiences at different locations, thus far. Only 2 of them have been good (amazing, we might say), while the rest have been either bad, or atrocious.

However, 1 in particular is "off the charts" bad. While the others were either rushed or poor service in general, this one experience words can't describe.

You might think it was some morbidly obese bait-and-switch with the worst service, who gave me HIV, but no. In fact, she looked great for her age, gave decent service and no STD.

The thing is, from the first step in the door, there was shame. As a religious person, the fact there is a "bitten apple" on the front door was a sign to turn around and walk away. While you may identify as Atheist or another religion, it's 100% OK... This isn't meant in respect to our differences in that regard.

It's about that they openly and proudly want to hurt our spirit. They know that most here see a bitten apple & associate it with sin & shame. They want us to regret seeing them. They don't care about providing service that makes us want to return, or uplifts us. It's all about tricking and deceiving us.

With that said, my visit to this location is no different. Even though she looked good, the talking down, excessively rude, rushing and fake moans & compliments left me with an intense sense of shame that even today, over a year later I still have.

An old, ugly morbidly obese bait-and-switch with poor service would have been better. Somebody who wants to hurt our soul for no reason, no matter how they look or the service they provide is somebody who we should avoid.

So remember if things reopen to respect yourself enough to walk away when it doesn't feel right... Almost never pay upfront unless familiar with the provider or agency. Hope this helps.

Peace โ˜ฎ๏ธ
 
I think at this point in your life hobbying is not for you. You may feel differently later. At 29 I would not even have thought about paying for sex. I did not want marriage and was happy just having a girlfriend and a social life. The only thing I would add is that it took me a little while to get used to this hobby. These days I am entirely comfortable, say what I am looking for and will walk away if i cannot get what I am looking for or feel apprehensive.
 
Yeah When you are reglious you will connect your own dots and paint your own picture.

There is no good or evil..there are people trying to get the most out of the situation so it benefits them. That is the common thread with everyone in life. Co-worker, spouse, sibling ..SP..friends..business competition

If you make yourself vulnerable you will be taken advantage of period. If you where able to go to work for a full day..work for 2 hrs..and get paid for all of it. You would take advantage. But you cannot because the company puts in time cards.. managers..work schedules ..meetings to make sure your there. They protect there income stream.

My point ..do you research..read reviews.. protect your space and ensure you minimize chances of being taken advantage off. I used to tell any SP before I see them to send me a pic..no pic..I dont go.. I move on.
You would surprised of how much fake girls I avoided. Now they passed the visual test but there service was shitty. "No I dont do that..your taking too long..that hurts..are you cuming now, I have another appointment hurry up, that's not what I said "

The SP world is full of fake pics and girls who think because they have a pussy they can run a business. I left the independent SP space yrs ago because of fake photos and shitty service.

Stick with well known spas or agencies..if it's shitty service you can complain to the review boards and there aware we hobbyist share info so they will try to make it right. Independent girls feel no obligation to make sure you leave happy. Count your blessings if you have some gems ..most are garbage.

Dont get me wrong you can find some good talent in the SP space. I spent many years there before I understood it was better to spend more money at a SPA vs playing around searching for gems. the effort and time wasted was not worth it.

That cheap 120 in call cost you money .gas .and time ..and you still didnt get off so you go find another incall the next day to get off..

2hrs finding girl via leolist
120 wasted and disappointed

Next day Another 2 hrs to find another girl because you need some redemption
Anothdr 120 wasted

Thats 4hrs and 220 wasted and that's not including driving all over the place..paying for parking..clearing text messages of the conversation. Waiting in parking lots and she opens the door and your like " it kinda looks like her" ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Fuck that..I dont waste my time anymore.

SPA
150 book my appointment
Drive there park for free..pay my fee..see my girl ..tip if I'm happy.. end of story.

My favorite Spa girl tells me shes gonna put my cock to sleep at the start of the session
That's what I pay for. Quality over Quantity. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
 
I beg to differ...
There are girls that enjoy what they do and put in effort to make it fun..comfortable and make sure you leave happy. There offerings are up front and transparent in service. Pics are accurate..everything's known. No false promises . If shes BBW ..MILF ..skinny ..green..just be honest in pics..service and price.

When I go to McDonald's I dont order a big mac ..get a TACO for a big mac price and when I complain ..I get attitude like she is doing a a favour. Thats what I'm referring to. Girls that feel entitled to not conduct business properly and RIP off guys.

Also If girls are doing this line of work and looking for guys "who really care about them" they have bigger issues no amount of appointments can solve.

Guys are paying to fuck..some are assholes some are nice. Most are not doing this for a real emotional relationship with the girls ..your confusing nice and caring . I'm a nice guy ..I treat them well and I tip well . But I dont care if shes gonna be able to buy flour .. Wtf ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ .

That's a job for her boyfriend..
 
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I doubt very much that the bitten apple is meant to be an insult towards anyone.
Different cultures, backgrounds, and upbringings expose us all to different things and thus we all have different interpretations of many things.
I for one have never heard of the symbolism of the bitten apple you refer to. There's a pretty good chance the MP owner hasn't either.
I think you may be reading far too much into something that isn't intended to mean anything at all.
 
It seems to me that you're just struggling with your conscience, which may keep you from returning to the hobby... not a bad thing, I might say.
The symbol of the bitten apple (giving into temptation) is both obvious and applicable.
Not sure why that bothers you so much... is it possible that, after a mediocre session, you're getting buyer's remorse of having a mediocre session, which doesn't outweigh the conscience factor of giving into temptation?
Maybe if you did more due diligence to vet the right provider, you might have a better experience overall, and less remorse, since you've had a better experience.

I'm a MP guy. Never been to a SP. Depending on where you go for your MPA, you can expect a certain level of overall service (and I'm not even talking about extras.)
 
Pretty intense post...

Have you thought about it from her perspective too... think about what it must feel like, to be treated by guys who really don't care one iota about her... one after the other, coming in, literally, and figuratively... she can't buy flour during a pandemic, no one gives a rats ass, just... you know... when will she next be available? If she died would you go to her funeral, or even read through her obit? Probably not... you wouldn't really care... you just want to nut, with a smile...

and so it's mutual. she doesn't really care about you either.

p.s. don't take this post personally... letter to self, really.

It's isn't about caring. It doesn't matter if a restaurant cook doesn't care about us, as long as the food is ok.

When they spit in our food, that's a problem. Especially for no reason.*
 
Your paranoid and over analyzing.
We are all here for a limited time.
Religion..superstition, beliefs ..assumptions wont save you. We are all marching towards the exit sign. So enjoy the view and smell the flowers on your way out.
 
I am guessing you went to as asian SPA?

if so you're paranoid and over thinking.

You might need to take a step back away from going to spas and relax your mind.
 
My relationship between the mpa or sp and me is strictly provider and customer relationship. As a customer i have a set of expectations. Wanting me to get the fuck out the moment the session started will get zero empathy from me. If you dont like the way the customer treat you then quit. Dont let shit the door on your way out.

If you are nice to me, i will be respectful.
 
Try it again, but this time revel in the shame and the wickedness. That's part of the fun. You can always struggle with remorse later before you do it again. I learned this when I deflowered my Jehova neighbour's daughter. The memory of her shame and post coital crying still gets me hard.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Cindy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Jasmine โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awai
  38. SpringGreen.:
    Apple off your weeked with a bang๏ผ Judy is at spring green in downtown toronto Tuesday from 9am-9pm with apple and coco. apple is a very beautiful andcaring young lady๏ผkitty is super hot.๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹647-891-0699 ask and text questions thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  41. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, MALIYA, MONIKA, ANGEL, MIMI, PREETI, ANGELINA, DIYA, PAYAL PEARL, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (1PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Yoga Lucy, Killer Kelly, Adorable Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญLUCY AND KELLY๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  48. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience,relief your pain,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนmust try
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
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